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Poster: JFLL Date: May 24, 2009 9:31am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Searching for Periodicals

Well yes, I could, but then I'd have wasted even more of my time! My point was that users shouldn't be put to this inconvenience in the first place -- it's the job of the uploader to tag titles helpfully, by thinking about the effects of his/her tagging for likely search strategies. Librarians know (or knew) all about this, which is why they devised cataloguing rules a hundred or more years ago.

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Poster: stbalbach Date: May 24, 2009 4:41pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Searching for Periodicals

Two things:

1. These books in particular came from Google. Google seems to have limited metadata info available for the public to access. This may be intentional.. but not sure.

2. Internet Archive has some sort of automated bot that is copying on the order of 500,000 to 1 million books from Google to Internet Archive. So, that's the "uploader/librarian" in this case.

So I don't think this is a case of a lazy individual or bad practices (on IA's behalf). Why isn't Google more forthcoming or accurate with its metadata is the question. My guess is Google as a commercial company makes money from metadata (searching), they don't want to give away the store.. but not sure.

Anyway, all this comes back to a commercial vs non-profit approach .. open vs closed .. This is just one example of the type of issues that come up when your dealing with a corporation that has all sorts of opaque motives and rules and regs. Is a darling of Wall Street the best Librarian? Probably not.


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Poster: JFLL Date: May 25, 2009 12:40am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Searching for Periodicals

I'm sure you're right, Stbalbach. Good tagging/cataloguing needs trained staff, and trained staff = money. I'm reminded of a certain music download subscription service I use, where tagging is often chaotic, with the result that all sorts of weird search strategies have to be used to find what they have by a given composer. They obviously don't see adequate and consistent tagging as being important to their "business model". Very irritating for an ex-librarian!

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